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<h1>NANAE Kook FAQ for new NANAE visitors</h1>
<p>
This FAQ is intended as a brief primer to the kooks who hang around in NANAE.
For the purposes of this FAQ, a "kook" is defined as someone who has a
complete disconnect with reality, and is likely to draw the uninformed newbie
into their web of lies and deceit.  At the end of each listing there will be
a pile of links that you can follow to learn more about your favorite kook.
</p>
<p>
This isn't at all meant to be exhaustive documentation, just a place where
newbies can be pointed to learn more.
<h3>Moris</h3>
<p>
Moris is without a doubt one of the most prolific posters to NANAE.  He
appears to have posted initially approximately two years ago (as of August
2004), complaining about being listed in SPEWS for whatever reason.  He
apparently didn't find the answers he was looking for, because he quickly
morphed into what can only be called an "anti-spews kook".  Moris is best
known for his personal tirades against anyone who disagrees with him,
labelling them "Spews kooks", "spews puppets", "insane spews puppets", and
many variations on the preceding.  He prefers never to argue based on
facts, and when pressed he can never provide any answers to legitimate
questions about his point of view.
</p>
<p>
Moris particularly likes to pounce on people who come to NANAE in the hopes
of getting their SPEWS listings removed, painting everyone else in the group
as fanatics.  Occasionally, newbies are drawn into Moris's web of lies and
deceit.  Most of the other denizens of the newsgroup try hard to avert this,
but it is hoped that his listing in this FAQ will help the newbie to make
up their own mind.
</p>
<p>
Here are some links regarding Moris's past and present behavior:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://www.spamreaper.org/etaoin/WhatIsNANAE.html">Look for "Moronis"</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/moronis.shtml">Very informative.</a>
</li>
</ul>
</p>
<h3>Jamie Baillie</h3>
<p>
Jamie is a very sad individual.  His stay on NANAE has been, to say the least,
tumultuous, and this author considers the chance of anyone with half a brain
too smart to ever fall for Jamie's tricks and lies.  His escapades are way
too many to list here, so instead, a list of characteristics of Jamie will
be listed here, along with links to more information.  You may want to block
out an hour or two just to read it, you're almost guaranteed to find it
hysterical.
</p>
<p>
Jamie is well known for long, incoherent, and rambling "larts" - that is,
complaints sent to internet providers about alleged spammers.  His larts can
be easily distinguished by the many hundreds of lines of irrelevant and hard
to plow through data, such as whois, traceroute, text from webpages, etc.
He tends to send these larts to tens of addresses at a time, some whom are
not at the least capable of dealing with the issue and some who have nothing
whatsoever to do with the site or mailbox he's trying to get removed.  This
author thinks that it would make a good parlor game to try to figure out what
any given email address from one of Jamie's larts actually has to do with the
lart.
</p>
<p>
Jamie is also known for his intolerance of criticism.  Anyone who disagrees
with him is branded as an "abusive prick", an "asshole", or plenty of other
names too numerous to enumerate here.  When this criticism goes above a
threshhold that only he knows, he begins to send larts about this person to
their ISP.  Jamie is well known for escalating these larts with a dogged
determination to anyone that he thinks is capable of putting the person
or organization who just blew him off in their place.  This usually happens,
in order:
<li>
The site's provider.
</li>
<li>
The site's provider's provider.
</li>
<li>
Any other providers.
</li>
<li>
The ultimate upstream - the tier 1.
</li>
<li>
The police where the tier 1 is located (sometimes, but the police in some
tangentially related locality are sometimes substituted.)
</li>
<li>
The police detective's immediate superiors, attempting to get the detective arrested..
</li>
<li>
The police chief.
</li>
<li>
..
</li>
</ul>
Jamie does have a dogged determination to get the person du jour that he is
going after, but he has a remarkably short attention span, and will usually
stop harassing someone when someone else becomes a more immediate target.
</p>
<p>
In spite of all this, is he harmless?  This author believes that other than
the annoyance factor and the minor risk that an abuse desk may actually take
his complaints seriously, probably not.  Jamie is more of an entertainment
than anything else, and has provided countless hours of entertainment to the
NANAE denizens who have had to deal with him, as well as to abuse desks
(one tier 1 has taken to posting his larts in the lunchroom for laughs, as
this author understands).  As long as you don't actually cross the line into
actionable behavior, a few tweaks here and there should provide you with a
bit of entertainment for a slow day.
</p>
<p>
This author fully expects to receive a lart for this page.
</p>
<p>
Jamie is also well known for a characteristic writing style.  You can usually
tell a genuine Jamie posts by the lack of commas, extreme run-on sentences,
and misspellings such as "harasing", "defamitory", and "tollerated".
He will also sometimes start a missive with "first off", and never say
what the second is, and his quoting style is nonexistent, causing the stats-bot
to erroneously attribute an absurdly high percentage of original content
to him.  He also posts a copyright message to the bottom of his posts, which
is frequently mocked and made fun of.  Unfortunately, due to the simplicity
of Jamie's writing style, it is easy to mock, therefore, coupled with his
propensity to rape proxies, it is usually next to impossible to verify a post
actually originated from him.  A good rule of thumb to remember, however,
is that if Jamie vehemently denies having originated a post, the odds are
good that he, in fact, did.
<p>
Links:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://www.jamiebaillie.com">His own page.</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.morningmist.org/kooks/lamie.shtml">The author's page on him</a>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>FreeSpeechStore</h3>
<p>
FreeSpeechStore is an interesting type of kook.  He runs a message board
called "The Free Speech Store", whose entire premise is that anyone can say
anything they want, but you have to pay to post or read.
</p>
<p>
He's well known for his viciousness and his propensity for empty legal
threats.  Fortunately, he prefers to spread his abuse on his own website,
rather than on NANAE - he only posts on NANAE when he feels that he needs to.
The risk of him actually causing you any material damage is low.
</p>
<p>
He has made mention of dodging bullets.  This author suspects that perhaps
he was in a war a while ago, and didn't come home with a full deck of cards.
</p>
<p>
He and Moris are known to be collaborators.
</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/freaspeachk00k.shtml">The scoop on Mr. Frea Speach</a>
</li>
</ul>
</p>
<h3>Sun Tsu/Bananananae/Right Only</h3>
<p>
This is perhaps the most dangerous kook of all listed so far.  This is because
he is somewhat well-spoken and coherent, and as such, lends himself to a
certain amount of credibility.  Fortunately, that vanishes as soon as he
tries to say something of import.
</p>
<p>
Sun Tsu, aka "bananananae", is well known for his adoration of Sun Tsu's
"the art of war", a fact which in itself says that he is not too good at
putting it into practice (a true adherent of Sun Tsu's writings, in this
author's opinion, would flat out deny having read his books).  This really
is neither here nor there, though, although it does provide one explanation
for the kooky behavior about to be described.
</p>
<p>
The thing that makes Sun Tsu a kook is his dogged determination to stick to
information that has been proven faulty, and his propensity to attack others
based on that faulty information.  Relentlessly.  He will use anything at
his disposal to achieve his aims (whatever they are).  Some methods that he
has already attempted to use are:
<ul>
<li>
Threatening to publicise an open posting on the web that a NANAE regular
authored unless his demands are met.  Fortunately, the posting that he found
only contained damaging information in his own mind, so in typical Sun Tsu
fashion, the attempt backfired.  He has, however, proven he is not above it.
</li>
<li>
He is also not above using any means at his disposal to try to discredit
someone that he has taken a dislike to.
</li>
</ul>
Unfortunately, his penchant for
misidentifying spammers, etc., means that his attacks tend to be unpredictable
and misdirected.  Because of the fact that he pursues people relentlessly
based on misinformation and attempts to destroy them in any way that he
can, without ever admitting the possibility that he could be wrong, he
has earned kook status and newbies need to be warned of him, lest they
give him credibility that he does not deserve.
</p>
<p>
The chance of him actually causing any damage is low, but the reader is
advised not to engage him in a battle.  He will cause much more damage to
himself than the reader could possibly hope to inflict.
</p>
<h3>
Alan Connor
</h3>
<p>
Alan Connor is more of a classic kook.  He is an avid proponent of
Challenge/Response systems, which is at least somewhat on topic for NANAE.
However, he is known for not only levelling personal attacks, that this
author is sure that he finds devastating but most everyone else shrugs off,
but for his dogged determination to convert the world to Challenge/Response.
The reader is advised to read the following links for examples of his
kookishness.
</p>
<p>
Links:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml">The definitive Alan Connor kook page.</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://www.lawdiscussion.com/archive/t-3714__Alan_Connor,_Usenet_spammer,_mail_spammer,_and_purveyor_of_mail_spam_software.html">Another interesting page</a>
</li>
</ul>
</p>
<h3>Brad Jesness</h3>
<p>
Oh, where to start with this one.  This author won't even try, and instead
points you to the link below where you can learn all about this kook.
</p>
<p>
Links
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://www.morningmist.org/kooks/bj/">The Brad Jesness FAQ</a>
</li>
</ul>
</p>
<h3>Roger Ladd Bratton</h3>
<p>
aka "Cletis Perkins", aka "Boxman", aka "Roger the Boxman", and too many
other aliases to list here.
</p>
<p>
It would be a stretch to call this person a troll, as what he does doesn't
even really rise to the level of trollishness.  It is thought that he posts
for attention, but no one is certain as to what his motives are.  One can
be reasonably sure, however, that he has some psychological problems, and
this author doubts that he is even aware that what he is doing is wrong.
</p>
<p>
Roger's posts can usually be identified by posting from an aol address where
the name is the same as the username.  He usually crossposts to a series
of unrelated groups, usually news.admin.net-abuse.email, alt.cellular.verizon,
alt.firefighters, misc.emergency-services, and alt.cellular.sprintpcs.
When he is not posting things with no content repeatedly (flooding), he is
accusing several people, this author included, of some pretty heinous things.
He is also well known for his expressed hatred of non-whites, and when he
begins posting to a newsgroup he tends to raise quite a firestorm.  Several
groups have moved to a moderated group because of this - where he instead
forges approved headers.
</p>
<p>
Sometimes he puts out poorly worded but graphic threats against people on
the groups he posts to.  These should probably be ignored.
<p>
Once he attaches to someone, he does not usually let go, posting things about
people for a long time after they vanish from usenet.
</p>
<p>
It is thought that Boxman and Jamie are collaborating, as there appear to
be two distinct styles of posts coming from the Boxman persona - and some
of them bear the hallmark Jamie style of misspelling.
</p>
<p>
This kook poses a low risk of actual harm, but his postings are extremely
annoying.  It is not recommended to try to take on this kook directly, as
the only thing that will be accomplished is a stepping up of his attacks.
If ever there were a perfect candidate for a killfile, Roger is it.
</p>
<h3>Dave Topping</h3>
<p>
Please refer to <a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&thB171878ce989748">this posting</a> to understand why this
individual was added to this FAQ.  The author does not maintain that this
person is a kook on the level of Jamie, Moris, etc., but this post exhibits
such a colossal lack of a sense of humor that newbies need to be warned never
to attempt a joke in his presence, as results akin to joking with Jamie
(above) may result.
</p>
<p>
The author wishes to reiterate that Dave Topping is not, as of yet, to be
considered a true "kook", but that his entry in this FAQ is, instead, to
be considered a warning to those who are not as mind-numbingly humor
impaired as the above referenced post appears to indicate Dave is.
</p>
<p>
The irrelevant whois material appears to indicate someone who studied at the
Jamie Baillie school of larting, but this resemblance is, hopefully, purely
superficial.
</p>
<h3>Scott Davis</h3>
<p>
Scott is regarded by many on NANAE to be a shill for Python Video.  This
author has no facts to back up this claim, but as at least one person who
believes this is respected by the author, the author will state this fact
and move on.
</p>
<p>
Scott is classified as a kook because of a posting stating publically that
he supports Moris, and has asked Moris previously if he would like to work
together to try to bring down SPEWS.  Because of his association and
sympathies with Moris, he has been classed a "kook by association", with all
the duties and privileges thereof.
</p>
<p>
Please note that Scott has done enough, including morphing to evade killfiles
and other antisocial behavior, to be classed a kook in his own right, but
his association with Moris was the straw that broke the camel's back and
tipped him into full-fledged kookdom.
</p>
<p>
Anyone who supports Moris in anything that is not independently verifiable
fact also runs the risk of being branded a kook and earning their very own
entry in this FAQ.
</p>
<h3>Bill Logan, Charles Sweeney, Els, Allis, Baho Utut, et al</h3>
<p>
This is not one kook but a whole swarm of them.  These people originally were
exposed to NANAE through an errant crosspost from alt.www.webmaster.  They
have proven themselves combative, nasty, and clue-resistant.  The latter
(clue-resistance), is what the author believes makes them qualified to
have a place on this page.
</p>
<p>
So far, the thread "affordablehosting tos" has gone to near 1500 posts
(1441 as of this writing, and that's only the posts on NANAE), and appears
to show no signs of abating.  In this, the above posters (and several others)
have shown tendencies to spam sympathizing, and worse, resist all attempts
to clue them in to where they are mistaken, resorting to ad hominem attacks
and other idiocy.
</p>
<p>
This author believes that they are completely harmless, but doesn't recommend
getting into a battle of wits with them, as doing battle with unarmed people
is not sporting.
</p>
<h3>Misc</h3>
<p>
This author has probably missed a few kooks, and will doubtless be adding to
this FAQ as more make themselves known.  Please email <a href="mailto:rmiller@duskglow.com">rmiller@duskglow.com</a> with corrections and updates.  Please
note that mail from the kooks listed above is NOT welcome and will result in
an abuse complaint to your service provider.
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